Here's a final thought about guns and control and banning perfectly legal activities before the New Year. Actually, it's not so much about guns per se, but about a philosophy. That is a philosophy of freedom.
This ridiculous nonsense about banning guns is getting out of control. As my good friend Red Brown points out; "Gun control will only serve to criminalize large numbers of citizens and give police more reasons to violate our privacy."
Yep. Think about that.
If guns are made illegal then it will criminalize what law biding citizens do. 99.99% of all gun owners in the USA do not commit gun crimes. Why would we want to make their ownership of an inanimate object a crime?
Isn't this similar to drug laws?
Think about it. Under a true philosophy of freedom, like Libertarianism, you are free to do as you wish as long as you don't bother other people. You are free to own private property and to seek happiness.
The important part of private property that people need to understand is that the most basic private property is ownership of oneself. You own you. You know what's best for you. I don't know what's best for you and certainly the government doesn't either. I have no right to tell you what to do and how to live. You have no right to tell me what to do and how to live. Certainly the government does not either.
If you want to take drugs then are you hurting anyone? No! If two consenting adults want to have sex, is there a victim? No! If someone wants to gamble their money away, does that hurt you and me? No! If someone wants to have a gun on their own property does that hurt you or me? No! Hell if someone wants to be stupid and drive without a seat belt, does that harm you or me? No! Definitely not (hopefully Darwinism can be put back into effect!)
Allow people to do with their private property as they wish as long as they do not hurt other people.
Also, think about this; the utter idea that an inanimate object like guns are the cause of gun crimes is incredible on the surface. I read an intelligent quote once. It said,
"If guns are responsible for gun crimes, then it follows the same logic that video cameras are responsible for child pornography."
There was another one that said, "We don't blame cars for drunk driving. Why do we blame guns for gun crimes?"
Anyway, the philosophical point is that we cannot curtail people's freedom. Like I wrote, the vast majority of gun owners do not commit gun crimes, why do people want to outlaw what they do? By what right do people think they can do so? And, finally, is anyone so daft that they think if they outlaw guns that criminals and Bloods and Crips and other gangs are going to suddenly become good boys and girls and turn in their weapons?
Laughable.
The biggest problem with this banning and registration (control) of weapons (or any behavior for that matter) is that we start down a very slippery slope. First registration, then more curtailments, then banning of some arms, then wider restrictions; finally a total ban. Don't think so? Well history proves that I am right...
Oh, and for you folks who think that the citizenry should be unarmed and only the government should have weapons, well, 20th century history shows you where you are completely wrong about that. Governments killed over 200 million citizens in the last 100 years...
From Predatory Politics:
Watch the video below for further proof....
History of Gun Control: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKasF6l3y0
Oh, but this time it's different. Banning guns is not the same thing....You think this is a big joke? You think this is stupid? Really? Well I did mention about the slippery slope. Read on:
British Doctors Call For a Ban on Kitchen Knives to End Stabbings:
"A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase – and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings. They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.
They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.
The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime. “We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect.”
There is also a humorous quote at the start of the article. It says,
"The good news is that if we ever do get that assault rifle ban, followed by a handgun ban, followed by a ban of anything that can shoot bullets, the “Banners” will still have a banner year of banning all the other ways with which people kill other people."
Yeah. When will the stupidity ever end? Not soon. Now a woman wants to ban beer drinking glasses and glass beer bottles because her husband was killed by a broken glass in a bar brawl. You can't make this stuff up!
Campaign to ban glass from pubs goes to Downing Street
"A widow whose husband died after being stabbed in the neck with a glass bottle is taking her campaign to ban glass from pubs and clubs to Downing Street. Philip Sherriff who was from Preston was attacked at a London nightclub on a night out in April. Tomorrow she's going to London to lobby the Government to change the law. Philip Sherriff Credit: ITV Granada His wife, Jane, says his death was totally preventable and has launched the campaign in his memory. She said: "I don't want anyone to go through what we've gone through, the devastation has been enormous."
Will the idiocy end in 2013? Nope. Remember when Politically Correct language was fringe? I do. Now it's everywhere. This banning all sorts of behaviors (because you are too childish to be able to handle a butter knife or spill your drink) will only get worse.
Have a Happy New Year...
Sorry Mike san, but they don't want to ban guns. I promise you, the police and the military and other government goons will keep their guns no matter what legislation is puked out.
ReplyDeleteThe entire focus on guns is a smokescreen and the guns serve as a scary looking bogeyman. What the ruling party bosses really desire is to imprison people who they hate, in this case gun owners.
The gun owners, of course, are innocent,and that shows you the depravity of the anti gun owner bigots.
The debate is all hate filled creeps who want to put innocent people in prison. Does any honest and thinking person think that putting innocent gun owners in prison will prevent an insane person from killing people?
I cannot stand to drink from plastic cups.
ReplyDeleteIf I can, it's either glass or metal, even my own hand - or nothing at all - thank you very much.
Do you think they'll ban drinking straight from the keg in the UK?
MJ: "is anyone so daft that they think if they outlaw guns that criminals and Bloods and Crips and other gangs are going to suddenly become good boys and girls and turn in their weapons?"
Is that what the x-ray vans and hollow points are for?
Door to door?
Just like in Iraq?
Or is all going to be done with drones?
... And all to applause.
Surreal.
MJ: "First registration, then more curtailments, then banning of some..., then wider restrictions; finally ...."
That's one mean template.
- IndividualAudienceMember
Sorry, but it is truly exhilarating to see the tide finally turning on this. Hope to see super high taxes or an outright bans on ammunition. Amo has a relatively short shelf-life and those guns won't be killing/threatening more children without it.
ReplyDeleteWitness Anonymous' utter disregard for the humanity of people he or she hates, namely gun owners. Innocent gun owner has some banned ammunition and hate filled bigots like Anonymous would have them sent to prison.
ReplyDeleteIn addition to being cruel enough to want to send innocent people to prison, Anonymous is living in some fantasy world where an inanimate object threatens a person.
Voices of hate and irrationality like Anonymous should not be heard.
Anonymous has the typical confused opinion about this. If "Gun-Free Zones" and no guns were what's best for our children, then please explain why the president of the the United States sends his children to a school that has 11 armed guards and armed Secret Service police guarding the children...
ReplyDeletePS: Norway has a very high guns per capita yet one of the lowest crimes rate in Europe. On the other hand, Denmark has the lowest guns per capita in Europe and one of the highest crime rates. Inanimate objects are not responsible for causing crimes.
ReplyDeleteAlso, hate to rain on your parade, but the tide is not turning on this... Gun sales in the USA have broken all records.
It cracks me up that you have to reaffirm your self-delusional theories at least 2x in every post with a "see, I'm always right" reinforcement. It's poor logic.
ReplyDeleteThis website is one of the worst circle-jerks I've seen. Also, lambasting people that don't automatically agree with you isn't a rational method to making your argument.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteIt's obvious that logical and analytical thinking is not your forte. But thanks for the excellently crafted rebuttal. "Circle-Jerk" Damn! Now how can I possible counter-such an eloquently forwarded argument. You win, I guess.
By the way, I support your argument for banning guns fully (albeit I do not insult people like you do) in my next blog post: Obesity is the Number 1 Problem Facing America Killing Over 300,000 a Year! - Ban Spoons! Enforce a "No Pie Zone" Over the USA! (http://modernmarketingjapan.blogspot.jp/2013/01/obesity-is-number-1-problem-facing.html)
PS: Anonymous obviously cannot read either. Show me once where I lambasted you... Or are you one of these people who think I run two companies, write a daily blog, raise 4 children, write for Lew Rockwell, eat, sleep AND write my own blog comments too?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the typical NRA talking points; I don't listen to one-sided, extreme, and false-choice Faux-news arguments in the least like the on you present. Sure the study you cite is a real one, but that's one data point. I don't come to conclusions on one data point, which by the way has been contradicted in other studies.
ReplyDeleteLuckily the recent tragedy has brought to a wider audience a ton of interesting, insightful articles and points of view. Learning a TON.
P.S. Between you guys (the gun-ho types) and Mayor Bloomberg. Guess who I'm sticking with...
P.S.S. Andrew, please don't purport to speak for gun owners. I'm sure that many of them would consider you a raving gun nut.
P.S.S.S. The gun nuts ARE losing the battle. Just part of the bigger narrative arc of a floundering Republican party.
You are on Mayor Bloomberg's side? The guy who banned large Cokes? Bea! Ha! Ha!
ReplyDeleteThis is the P.S.S.S. Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year Mike! Looking forward to more disagreements.
Dear PSSS Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThanks.... You don't for a second think I am a Republican, do you?
Happy New Year to you too, my friend! May 2013 see you and yours healthy and prosperous!
Andy "In Japan" wrote: "hate filled creeps who want to put innocent people in prison."
ReplyDeleteThat about sums it up, doesn't it?
I pity them.
And feel sorry for the rest.
Anonymous wrote, "Amo has a relatively short shelf-life and those guns won't be killing/threatening more children without it."
See, right there, ignorance x 10 plus, I'm betting it's from a retard who swallows every goberment line tossed that way,... unconditionally.
Screw banning spoons, ban all the sporks too?
Sporks are the Real badness?
Psft...
And when does flour get banned?
That shit's highly explosive and it's everywhere!
And when do the tools to make the above things get banned?
Yeesh, the unions are salivating.
Control.
Control.
Control.
BTW, that wasn't meant as a slam, per say, just an observation. A guy slamming his head against a wall is a common thing anymore. ?>?? I can't just watch and say nothing.
Anonymous wrote, "P.S.S.S. The gun nuts ARE losing the battle. Just part of the bigger narrative arc of a floundering Republican party."
Wow, as if there aren't any liberals who agree with the idea of the 2nd Amendment. Psft.
Can a Person BE any more friggin' clue-less?
Are they even aware of the history of gun control? Or do they just get a benefit from not thinking about such things?
I wonder what they would write if they had to answer the question: What does it mean to be an American?
Heck, I wonder what third grader's would write these days? Love of Empire? Submit and obey without question? Seems like it.
- IndividualAudienceMember
The ball just dropped in Times Square! Nah, I know you are not Republican.
ReplyDeleteI think there is a misunderstanding about gun control and gun bans. I personally do not own a gun and have only fired a hunting rifle. But I do think that in America that there should be a right to own guns. But my question to the people that want to own assault weapons is this: why? Anyway, this gun violence in America is more than just guns. It's violence. And mental health. The country after Reagan closed most of the Federally funded mental institutes in the 80's let all of those individuals out on the streets. The place that many of them now reside. The other home for them is prisons. As if that's not a tax payer burden. So maybe the country is not doing enough to assist and protect its citizens. Instead the gov't spend tons on wars. And another reason that all of this violence? The society here in America. Or better yet, the government breeds violence. We're violent country. There were 20 kids killed in CT recently and that's horrible. But American troops kill endless amount of children in foreign wars all the time. Where's the outrage about that? But back to my first question. Why do you or anybody need to own an assault rifle? And the answer is not the 2nd Amendment. That's not a good enough answer. I wouldn't mind hearing one.
ReplyDeleteBill
Bill,
ReplyDeleteThanks. You ask a good question. May I humbly suggest that you get better information on what you are talking about? Specifically, "What is an 'Assault rifle'? Please watch this video made by a former policeman with testimony from the Bureau of Tobacco Alcohol and Firearms: "What Is An "Assault Rifle"? - You've Probably Been Lied To" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATeti5GmI8
Mike.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link to the video and featuring my question on your latest blog post. (I have officially made the bigtime! :-) ) Anyway, It does a good job of explaining the differences between the outlawed fully automatic weapon or rifle in this case. I also read that if the automatic weapon was manufactured before 1986, then yes, you can own one. So, basically they are outlawed. My question is still valid as in why does anyone want to own one. I mean, they can't but I am sure there are people that do illegally and if they could they would. But why the need for such a powerful weapon? I guess that question would be the same for someone who wants to own an RPG or even a tank.
In the new blog post you do mention that you don't like the government to interfere with your rights and freedoms. I understand. How do you tolerate that in Japan where in the case of weapons, you have very little rights (which to me seems ok in this case since I am not a "gun guy")? You care in a unique situation in that you are an American citizen but live abroad and have so for a very long time.
Bill
Hi Bill,
ReplyDeleteYes. I understand.
Well, sir... I think we cannot compare Japan and the USA. They are two totally and completely different places. How about this: In a nation that was built on violent revolution and gun ownership with such a violent history of murder (War Between the States killing over 700,000 Americas), genocide (American natives estimated over 4 million dead), the largest prison population in the world (over 2 million people in prison), and out of control level of urban violence (gangs) and constant foreign war (built on lies; Iraq, Afghanistan, 4 other ME nations) and police brutality in general - along with the fact that there are now over 300 million guns in a nation with the population of 311 million people... The utter idea that gun control will work seems preposterous on the face of it.... Now, why that doesn't matter to Japan? Go here and read from about 18 paragraphs down: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers56.html
Thanks, again, Bill!